Connecting on Craigslist
By JEFF SIMMERMON & KENNETH HILL

Editors' Note: Reading this won't make you any straighter or gayer than you already are.

 

 

The Craigslist personals are an infinite number of anonymous ad lines in the water, all with wildly different lures. You can take a representative reading of the breadth and depth of human desire on here, and really erode some potentially productive time. It's also pretty easy to see the difference between the gay and straight dating and hookup scenes, too. This week Kenny and I took a look for ourselves.

-- Jeff

 


If you look at the w4m section, it looks pretty innocuous. Fairly straight-ahead, if you'll pardon the pun.


From a sociological point of view, it's pretty fascinating. On the day we looked, there were 268 ads in Craigslist's men seeking men (or m4m) section that contained "Married" as a keyword. What's with all the married men? My mother used to say that all the good men were either married or gay. Look out, ladies, because now they're BOTH, simultaneously.

 

Usually I have some sort of smart little retort to something like this, but now I got nothin'. I'm out of gas.

That's really unusual. Usually you are the world's smartest ass. But moving on here, the second-strangest thing I've noticed about these ads is that none of the first 10 listings in the women seeking men section (w4m) say anything at all about sex.
 


Try not to seem so disappointed. It's fairly normal that they wouldn't. This section is for people looking for an actual dating relationship, not a casual encounter. There's a whole section of the site for that itself, called, conveniently enough, Casual Encounters.


Well, I did notice that 99 percent of the Casual Encounters appear to be posted by straight men. Do women just never mention sex in dating ads? Is it because women are supposed to at least appear to be good girls? Or do they really not want casual sex from guys they meet online?


A little from column A, little from column B, I'd wager – not being a lady myself.


The men seeking women in the dating section are smart enough to say they are looking for dates, for the most part. They're a little racier than the women seeking men, though. I guess they know that fishing for a hookup with women is really probably not going to happen? This is just so different than the m4m section – 99 percent of those ads are looking for sex. Do straight people just not get to do that?


Oh, hell no. I think the closest we got was 1969, based on what movies and TV have taught me.


On the other hand, if you're gay and you want a date, you can find a match in lots of other places – but I don't think you're going to get one from Craig.

No, but if you want to explode with the stickiest adjectives available, you've got your digital bathhouse right there.


I should point out that not ALL gay men have casual sex. I know you think we do.

 
 


No, I'm sure there's a small, silent minority that doesn't have casual Internet-enabled sex on a regular basis. But the option's available to all of you all the time, isn't it?


Either you're an incorrect expert on gay sex all of a sudden or you're jealous, if not both. Every single gay man on earth COULD get laid in 15 minutes … if they wanted to. That's not true for you, is it?

 
I mean, it's technically possible, although my friends that work on Capitol Hill tell me that it's terribly expensive.

For real now: Does this make you jealous of gay men?

 
 


Yes and no. Yes, because, well, yes. No, because I think that Internet-enabled casual hookups appeal to the drive-through/click-through mentality in everyone. I mean you can order food, movies, pay bills online. It naturally follows that folks would want to order a shag as well. It's possible to meet someone really amazing and special online, but just as rare as in real life. Most people get trained to click past, to find next new person, and never appreciate what's right in front of them.


Online hookups may be too easy for gays. Why put yourself out there trying to get the courage to meet someone in a bar when you can just order up a guy like so much takeout? “Hmm, what do I feel like tonight? Italian? Asian? Or all-American beef?” I think for some people, the variety and the excitement must be very interesting and fun. I have to think it cannot be completely fulfilling, though.

As someone who's been in three long-term relationships, it's hard for me to say. I've only been single for like a minute in between husbands. The last time I dated, mimeograph machines were all the rage. But here's what I think:

If women were available on Craigslist for hookups, you guys would be drinking at the trough like a bunch of thirsty race horses. But they aren't, for the most part. I guess women are built to be more selective and less driven to casual sex because of biology, or extreme social conditioning. Whatever the reason, they call the shots in straight sex. And because straight women don't easily hook up casually, it seems, that means you straight guys don't get to either.

 


Your theories seem sound to me. But don't look at Craigslist personals as real life. There are a lot of people in the world, online and offline, and we're only looking at the narrow subset that chose to look for partnership on CraigsList. They're a selective representation of real life – sort of a polarized lens to look through. But man, what a representation! Some of these ads are completely NUTS.


I know, I know. The best ones aren't representative of any group, gay or straight -- they're just oddly cut gems all their own. Check out these two, for example:

 
 
From women seeking men:

I AM THE PERFECT PACKAGE - 29

I NEED A MAN TO TAKE CARE OF ME. TAKE ME OUT, WINE AND DINE ME, AND PAMPER ME TO GET INTO MY TIGHT PANTS. I ALWAYS WEAR A THONG, EXCEPT FOR WHEN I'M OUT ON DATES OR IN A BAR/CLUB, THEN I HAVE NOTHING ON. I WANT A MALE MODEL, WHO IS AT LEAST 6'3, DARK HAIR, FAIR SKINNED. YOU MUST READ 2 BOOKS A WEEK, MAKE 100K+, AND STILL HAVE TIME TO WINE AND DINE . I USED TO BE A FEMALE MODEL, WHO RECENTLY RETIRED, DUE TO HEALTH PROBLEMS AND NOW I NEED TO FIND THAT SPECIAL SOMEONE TO GET ME BACK ON TRACK. IF YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THIS CABOOSE, THEN DROP ME A LINE . I AM NOT AVAILABLE MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, OR SUNDAY. PLEASE WRITE ME AND LEAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND I WILL PENCIL YOU IN AT A TIME THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR ME.

OH AND I CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH - NO PICTURE, NO RESPONSE. AND IF YOU SEND ME ONE OF YOUR MEMBER, I WILL FORWARD ON YOUR IDENTITY TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY HERE SO THAT THEY KNOW WHO THE WIERDOS ARE . DO NOT SEND ME PICTURES OF YOUR NAKED SELF, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

THAT IS ALL FOR NOW . TATA BOYS. *MWA*
 
 
From men seeking men:

DRAGQUEEN HERE HONESTLY LOOKIN FOR MR. RIGHT. DOES HE EXIST?

HEY FELLAS,

DOES TRUE LOVE EXIST?

ARE THERE ANY GUYS OUT HERE LEFT WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DATING, QUIET NIGHTS AT HOME CUDDLY RELAXING GETTING TO KNOW SOMEONE?
MILITARY GUYS AND TYPES A PLUS I WORK THE BAR SCENE AND I CANT FIND MR RIGHT IN THEM, I FIND MR GET ON MY NERVES., MR BROKE, MR DRAMA, ETC

LOOKING FOR THAT GUY WHO IS INTERESTED IN A RELATIONSHIP AS IT GOES, BE THERE FOR EACH OTHER TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER IN THEIR IDEAS, AND OTHER STUFF

A GUY WHO WILL BE THERE AT THE SHOWS AND SHOW HIS SUPPORT AND SUPPORT ME IN MY ENTERTAINMENT BIZ I OWN. A GUY WHO UNDERSTANDS THAT I ONLY DO THIS ON STAGE AND DONT DRESS UP IN THE BEDROOM. OTHERWISE ALL MALE HERE

SOMEONE WHO WILL KEEP ME MOTIVATED AND EAGER TO BROADEN MY ENTERTAINMENT, ETC

IF YOU THINK YOU FIT IN THIS PLEASE SEND ME YOUR STATS CONTACT INFO , PIC MAYBE AND LETS CHAT AND GO FROM THERE

**THIS IS NOT A JOKE, IM VERY SERIOUS !!**

 

I'm gay and partnered. I couldn't be further off the market. But really, I don't care how representative of anyone the Craigslist Personals are. They just shock me, crack me up, and in the case of that one lonely drag queen, give me a little more faith in the human hunt for true romance.
 


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